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		<title>Comment on Ottawa Citizen:  &#8216;M and M&#8217; stick in craw of climate-change crew by Ottawa Citizen &#124; Trends Pics</title>
		<link>http://co2realist.com/2009/12/05/ottawa-citizen-m-and-m-stick-in-craw-of-climate-change-crew/#comment-506</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ottawa Citizen &#124; Trends Pics]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 20:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Spiegel Online covers climate issues by CO2 Realist</title>
		<link>http://co2realist.com/2010/04/03/spiegel-online-covers-climate-issues/#comment-444</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CO2 Realist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Years of peer review, or &quot;pal review&quot; have kept dissenting papers out of the journals.  Peer review also doesn&#039;t verify results, which is how the proponents spin it to the public. They didn&#039;t even investigate whether emails were deleted to avoid FOI requests, when the emails clearly indicate that was the intent, and Phil Jones even says in an email the he &quot;deleted loads of emails&quot;.  How is this not a whitewash?

Look, I agree with you on many points you cover on your blog.  Yes, CO2 causes warming.  Yes, the earth is warming, as measured from the LIA. Claiming that CO2 is the only cause is naive at best.  What about land use changes and deforestation? What about soot? How does this all interact in a complex environment.  I&#039;d believe the climate scientists more if they presented more logical, rational points rather than the alarmist claims that 1/2 degree change in the average temperature is causing unrepairable damage. A big part of the problem is that the climate discussion has become too politicized, especially with expensive &quot;solutions&quot; that will accomplish nothing, it is hard not to get cynical. When even the &quot;lukewarmer&quot; scientists are ridiculed it is hard to take the alarmist seriously. I&#039;d be happy to see way more science and way less politics. By the way, how that carbon trading system in Europe working out?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Years of peer review, or &#8220;pal review&#8221; have kept dissenting papers out of the journals.  Peer review also doesn&#8217;t verify results, which is how the proponents spin it to the public. They didn&#8217;t even investigate whether emails were deleted to avoid FOI requests, when the emails clearly indicate that was the intent, and Phil Jones even says in an email the he &#8220;deleted loads of emails&#8221;.  How is this not a whitewash?</p>
<p>Look, I agree with you on many points you cover on your blog.  Yes, CO2 causes warming.  Yes, the earth is warming, as measured from the LIA. Claiming that CO2 is the only cause is naive at best.  What about land use changes and deforestation? What about soot? How does this all interact in a complex environment.  I&#8217;d believe the climate scientists more if they presented more logical, rational points rather than the alarmist claims that 1/2 degree change in the average temperature is causing unrepairable damage. A big part of the problem is that the climate discussion has become too politicized, especially with expensive &#8220;solutions&#8221; that will accomplish nothing, it is hard not to get cynical. When even the &#8220;lukewarmer&#8221; scientists are ridiculed it is hard to take the alarmist seriously. I&#8217;d be happy to see way more science and way less politics. By the way, how that carbon trading system in Europe working out?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Spiegel Online covers climate issues by slrtx</title>
		<link>http://co2realist.com/2010/04/03/spiegel-online-covers-climate-issues/#comment-443</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[slrtx]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sorry you feel it&#039;s all a whitewash, because the investigations didn&#039;t deal with the science of climate change.  They never said they would.  Why would they?  Years of peer-reviewed research has done that already.

Either you have no clue what peer-review means, or you refuse to understand it.

And, if you can&#039;t or won&#039;t understand that, no result of any review of &quot;climategate&quot; would satisfy you, unless it only supports your own pre-conceived ideas.

So instead of dealing with disappointment that this whole climategate thing fizzled out on you, you now claim the review is a whitewash.

So how does this whitewash thingy work?  Who&#039;s involved?  What&#039;s their motivation?  

See.  It sounds like a conspiracy.  

Oh.  I forgot.  You refuse to see.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry you feel it&#8217;s all a whitewash, because the investigations didn&#8217;t deal with the science of climate change.  They never said they would.  Why would they?  Years of peer-reviewed research has done that already.</p>
<p>Either you have no clue what peer-review means, or you refuse to understand it.</p>
<p>And, if you can&#8217;t or won&#8217;t understand that, no result of any review of &#8220;climategate&#8221; would satisfy you, unless it only supports your own pre-conceived ideas.</p>
<p>So instead of dealing with disappointment that this whole climategate thing fizzled out on you, you now claim the review is a whitewash.</p>
<p>So how does this whitewash thingy work?  Who&#8217;s involved?  What&#8217;s their motivation?  </p>
<p>See.  It sounds like a conspiracy.  </p>
<p>Oh.  I forgot.  You refuse to see.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Chevy Volt dancers:  You wonder why GM is bankrupt? by forsythkid</title>
		<link>http://co2realist.com/2010/01/22/the-chevy-volt-dancers-you-wonder-why-gm-is-bankrupt/#comment-441</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[forsythkid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 01:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Those models look a bit out of shape. Perhaps they reflect the top heavy aspect of an economy that serves the government elite at the cost of a hard working labor force that even now is beginning to look on vehicles like the Volt as something to dream about, but never to own.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those models look a bit out of shape. Perhaps they reflect the top heavy aspect of an economy that serves the government elite at the cost of a hard working labor force that even now is beginning to look on vehicles like the Volt as something to dream about, but never to own.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Spiegel Online covers climate issues by CO2 Realist</title>
		<link>http://co2realist.com/2010/04/03/spiegel-online-covers-climate-issues/#comment-440</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CO2 Realist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 03:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think New Scientist hit the nail on the head: 

http://co2realist.com/2010/07/20/new-scientist-editorial-is-on-the-mark/

I never said it was a conspiracy, I do agree that the &quot;investigations&quot; were whitewashes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think New Scientist hit the nail on the head: </p>
<p><a href="http://co2realist.com/2010/07/20/new-scientist-editorial-is-on-the-mark/" rel="nofollow">http://co2realist.com/2010/07/20/new-scientist-editorial-is-on-the-mark/</a></p>
<p>I never said it was a conspiracy, I do agree that the &#8220;investigations&#8221; were whitewashes.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Phil Jones &#8211; Emails taken out of context by New Scientist editorial is on the mark &#124; CO2 Realist</title>
		<link>http://co2realist.com/2009/11/28/phil-jones-emails-taken-out-of-context/#comment-439</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[New Scientist editorial is on the mark &#124; CO2 Realist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 03:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Phil Jones&#8217; emails are very clear, and no other context is needed: [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Joanne Nova: New Scientist becomes Non Scientist by New Scientist editorial is on the mark &#124; CO2 Realist</title>
		<link>http://co2realist.com/2009/12/15/joanne-nova-new-scientist-becomes-non-scientist/#comment-438</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[New Scientist editorial is on the mark &#124; CO2 Realist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 03:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Joanne Nova: New Scientist becomes Non Scientist [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on New Scientist magazine asleep at the wheel? by New Scientist editorial is on the mark &#124; CO2 Realist</title>
		<link>http://co2realist.com/2010/01/17/new-scientist-magazine-asleep-at-the-wheel/#comment-437</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[New Scientist editorial is on the mark &#124; CO2 Realist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 03:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Newsweek gets real by Newsweek surprises me again &#124; CO2 Realist</title>
		<link>http://co2realist.com/2010/05/29/newsweek-gets-real/#comment-436</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Newsweek surprises me again &#124; CO2 Realist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 02:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] can&#8217;t believe that Newsweek is again moving in the direction toward balanced reporting, at least on climate. Consider this recent [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Spiegel Online covers climate issues by slrtx</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[slrtx]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So now the investigations are whitewashes.  Sounds like conspiracy theories to me.  The facts are there for all to read.  If there&#039;s a conspiracy, prove it.  After all, you ARE about the true facts, right.  Then, cough them up.  Please.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So now the investigations are whitewashes.  Sounds like conspiracy theories to me.  The facts are there for all to read.  If there&#8217;s a conspiracy, prove it.  After all, you ARE about the true facts, right.  Then, cough them up.  Please.</p>
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